Looking to grab a screen

[Vdubber10]

just came up on some money to finally do the audio in my G35 right. Basically im looking to get a touch screen with nav for around $1k. I can get a good deal on this one:

Kenwood DNX9140

I do like the new pioneers though...Any thoughts?

[tjamz]

Kenwood = PITA to change settings on in my opinion.

Pioneer is good, but I've yet to find any real advantage of them vs everything else (aka, I haven't quite understood the hype surrounding them)

JVC, Alpine, Clarion and Motevo all have great head units w/ NAV. JVC & Motevo are the easiest to bypass the parking brake on of this group. Alpine usually requires a module to bypass the parking brake, Clarion just requires a momentary switch to switch from ground to open and back to ground again (a relay tied to the hazard light switch can do this easily).

I'm normally a die-hard Clarion fanatic, but I'm starting to move towards JVC and will be featuring them in all 3 of my personal vehicles in 2010, including one of these most likely http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?mo...hId=147&page=1



* Memory Navigation (Whole map coverage preinstalled)
* High-Sensitivity WAAS Capable GPS
* Built-in RDS-TMC Tuner (NAVTEQ Traffic RDS™)
* Coverage: United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Canada, Puerto Rico, and U.S. Virgin Islands
* Text-to-Speech (English/Spanish/French/German/Italian/Dutch/Portuguese/Dannish/Swedish/Russian)
* P.O.I. (12 million: infoUSA.)
* Buit-in 7-Inch Wide Monitor
* Multiple Destination Search Functions
* Search by P.O.I. (Category/Name/Vicinity/Phone Number)
* Destination Memory (up to 100 favorites)
* Last 50 Destinations
* 4 Via Points
* POI Alert
* Speed Limit Display
* Magnified View
* Quick Search
* Speed Alert
* Lane Guide
* Speed Dependent Volume Control
* MOS-FET 50W x 4 (RMS 20W R x 4)
* Includes KS-BTA200 Bluetooth Adapter
* GIGA MP3 MULTI
* AAC*1/WAV/MP3/WMA Compatible (DVD/CD/USB)
* DivX®/JPEG/MPEG1,2 Compatible (DVD/CD/USB*3)
* SD Slot (JPEG/AAC*1/WAV/ MP3/WMA)
* USB Audio and Video for iPod etc. *3
* SAT Radio Ready
* USB Port (AAC*1/WAV/MP3/WMA/iPod Audio)
* HD Radio Ready™*4
* DTS/Dolby Digital/MPEG Audio
* 7-Band iEQ
* Gold-Plated Input Terminals (AV/Video)
* Gold-Plated Output Terminals (Front/Rear/Subwoofer/Composite Video)
* TFT ON/OFF
* CD Changer Ready
* High-Pass Filter (ON/Through)
* Multilingual Display
* Detachable Control Panel
* Rear View Camera Ready
* Proximity Sensor
* Touch Panel
* *1 Not compatible with DRM-protected music purchased from iTunes Store.
* *2 Divx® files must be less than 2Mbps for playback on USB.
* *3 KS-U20 cable required for iPod video playback. Compatibility depends on iPod.
* *4 KT-HD300 and KS-U21 required.

[RCP90]

tjamz... Turning from a "die-hard Clarion fanatic" to a JVC guy... I never thought I'd see the day :-p ... but i'm glad i'm seeing the transition :D

[tjamz]

Well, I still think that HANDS DOWN the best sounding/easiest to use dvd player on the market is Clarion....and yes, I've listened to a LOT of them and I think wes would agree with me there. The only thing Clarion is lacking in current models is Fiber optic output and 6 volt pre-outs. If they had that, I'd never even consider anything else.

[Vdubber10]

so im looking up the clarion vx400 and im impressed...do you know what place around here carries clarion that might also be trying to do the install?

[Vdubber10]

scratch that, the nx409 looks even better

[RCP90]

Fiber optic output... do car stereos even have that these days... Honestly I think it would be easier to just make a car-puter and add a sound card with optical out and have a 7" in dash vga screen

[tjamz]

Fiber optic output... do car stereos even have that these days... Honestly I think it would be easier to just make a car-puter and add a sound card with optical out and have a 7" in dash vga screen

Yes, fiber is standard on JVC DVD units.

I've done the carpc route before, the cool factor is there, but I just don't like it as my source unit.

[weshole]

so im looking up the clarion vx400 and im impressed...do you know what place around here carries clarion that might also be trying to do the install?

scratch that, the nx409 looks even better

The NX409 is last years model. Maybe Chuck can check if they it is still available.

Im looking into getting the VX400 myself.

[weshole]

Oh and I had a Kenwood and while it was nice to look at, it was a pita to operate.

[Vi3tBoy]

I had an ALpine w203 and it was by far the easiest to operate, looked nice and priced very reasonable.

[tjamz]

The NX409 is last years model. Maybe Chuck can check if they it is still available.

Im looking into getting the VX400 myself.

NX409 is long gone, however this http://clarion.com/us/en/products/20...394334521.html is it's direct replacement. I'm not even sure anything changed other than the nameplate.


NX500


NX409

[Showsol2211]

I had the Kenwood DDX7019 in my Scion before I sold it and I loved it! I thought it was one of the easiest radio's to operate. I was selling just the indash for $400, but found out that I won't be putting the Nav in my new car so I will end up selling it all for $600.

[RCP90]

I dont want to sound like a Noob here but what do you mean by PITA ?

[Vdubber10]

pain in the ass

[tjamz]

I dont want to sound like a Noob here but what do you mean by PITA ?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+does+PITA+mean%3F

[RCP90]

So you give me the "here let me google it for you"
and i get this
Web definitions for pita
usually small round bread that can open into a pocket for filling
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - Definition in context

So thanks Vdubber10 for telling me its a Pain in the ass... personally i just say POS ... but some people get that confused with point of sales computers... but most of those are POS

[tjamz]

Difference is Kenwood is not a POS product, it works fine, it's just a pain in the ass to use.

Oh, and when I click that very LMGTFY link, it gives me these results as well (I figured you knew I wasn't talking about the bread):

What does p.i.t.a. mean? - Yahoo! Answers
Mar 6, 2007 ... It's an acronym for Pain In The A s s ... probably means "pain in the a$$". ...

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[RCP90]

[QUOTE=tjamz;1501685]NX409 is long gone, however this http://clarion.com/us/en/products/20...394334521.html is it's direct replacement. I'm not even sure anything changed other than the nameplate.

There is one tiny change....
The Clarion NX409 didnt allow an optional HD radio tuner to be added on...
where as the NX500 does let you have it.... :D

If you really have your heart set on a NX409 you can go to crutchfield and pick one up for $499.99
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_020NX40...ssi=0&tp=20212

But I'd take the NX500 instead if you have the option because its only a matter of time before all our fm stations are offered in HD I know plenty of the ones I listen to are in HD already

[Showsol2211]

Difference is Kenwood is not a POS product, it works fine, it's just a pain in the ass to use.

Oh, and when I click that very LMGTFY link, it gives me these results as well (I figured you knew I wasn't talking about the bread):

What does p.i.t.a. mean? - Yahoo! Answers
Mar 6, 2007 ... It's an acronym for Pain In The A s s ... probably means "pain in the a$$". ...

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I am not sure why it is so difficult for you... It's probably one of the easiest interfaces i have installed for people. They always come back adn say how easy/friendly it is compared to similar ones out there. Are you sure it's not just you?

[weshole]

I am not sure why it is so difficult for you... It's probably one of the easiest interfaces i have installed for people. They always come back adn say how easy/friendly it is compared to similar ones out there. Are you sure it's not just you?

Difficult? no. I owned the Kenwood Chuck is referring to and showed him all the steps you had to go through not only to sort/find a song to even tilting the face. Hell, adjusting the sound was involved. Im comparing the U/I with the multiple Clarion and Alpine units I have owned/used. The one I am referring to is the DDX712. Like chuck said it wasnt a cheap pos unit. Just more difficult to use than other H/U we have used. It is personal preference speaking here based solely on hands on experience. Your opinion may vary.

[tjamz]

Difficult? no. I owned the Kenwood Chuck is referring to and showed him all the steps you had to go through not only to sort/find a song to even tilting the face. Hell, adjusting the sound was involved. Im comparing the U/I with the multiple Clarion and Alpine units I have owned/used. The one I am referring to is the DDX712. Like chuck said it wasnt a cheap pos unit. Just more difficult to use than other H/U we have used. It is personal preference speaking here based solely on hands on experience. Your opinion may vary.

Yes, this is what I was referring to when I said PITA. Everything seems hidden in the sub-menu's. I'm sure once you get used to it it's not so bad, but comparing it against Clarion, Alpine, Panasonic and JVC it felt "cumbersome" (to me)

[handroshere]

I'm a big Alpine fan, used them since day one, never tested their video monitors though, easy to use and install? Do they seem to last a long time compared to other brands?

[weshole]

The Alpine units are decent and not terribly hard to use. They do require a certain module to bypass the video safety lockout feature which are plentiful *PAC TR7*(about $25.00 or so). I am impressed however at what you get for what you pay. They do a good job at the multimedia but not above anyone else.

[handroshere]

Thanks for the help! Do most video units require a bypass module like that or does it depend on the make of the unit?